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Thursday, September 02, 2004
When Johnny Came Marching Home Again
When Johnny Came Marching Home Again
John Kerry's time in Vietnam should not be the central issue of the 2004 Presidential race, even though Kerry decided to tout it as his main -- perhaps only -- qualification for office. His running mate, John Edwards, told prospective voters, "If you have any questions about what John Kerry's made of, just spend three minutes with the men who served with him." Kerry's four months in Vietnam ended thirty-five years ago; a lot of water has gone under the bridge since then. Doesn't he have any more recent acquaintances who could vouch for his character? Personally, I'd like to hear more about the people he spent time with when he returned from Vietnam. Although Kerry would have us believe that the period between his Vietnam days and the present time -- or at least his election to the Senate -- was more or less an empty void, that's not the truth.
When Kerry returned home from Vietnam, his sister recruited him to fly protester (and advisor to Ted Kennedy) Adam Walinsky around to give speeches against the war. Kerry requested an early out from the Navy in order to run for Congress on an anti-war platform, and was transferred to the Naval Reserve six months early. An article in the Harvard Crimson at the time stated that he was against the war even before he went to Vietnam. "At Yale, Kerry was chairman of the Political Union and later, as Commencement speaker, urged the United States to withdraw from Vietnam and to scale down foreign military operations. And this was way back in 1966." Kerry was quoted as saying that the United Nations should have control over most of America's foreign military operations. "I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations," he said. He was also quoted saying that he wanted "to almost eliminate CIA activity."
He didn't get the 1970 Democratic nomination for Congress. Instead, Kerry got more deeply involved in the anti-war movement. Kerry joined the VVAW (Vietnam Veterans Against the War) in June 1970, and quickly rose to become the group's national spokesman. He attended protest rallies all over the country, including the infamous Valley Forge rally (at which Jane Fonda spoke) and a staged "occupation" of Washington DC in April 1971, during which Kerry threw his medals, or his ribbons, or possibly someone else's medals or ribbons over the Capitol Building fence. (Even now, no one has been able to get a straight answer out of Kerry.) The VVAW marched through towns, passing out flyers saying:
A U.S. INFANTRY COMPANY JUST CAME THROUGH HERE!
If you had been Vietnamese---
We might have burned your house
We might have shot your dog
We might have shot you...
We might have raped your wife and daughter
We might have turned you over to your government for torture
We might have taken souvenirs from your property
We might have shot things up a bit...
We might have done all these things to you and your whole TOWN!
If it doesn’t bother you that American soldiers do these things every day to the Vietnamese simply because they are "Gooks," then picture YOURSELF as one of the silent VICTIMS.
Help us end the war before they turn your son into a butcher or a corpse.
Although Vietnam veterans and anyone who supports and honors our troops may feel slighted and even angered by Kerry's characterisation of them, his First Amendment rights protected all of this. He had the right to say anything he wanted to, lies or not. But this was not all that Kerry did.
Kerry and Jane Fonda were both in Detroit in January 1971 at the "Winter Soldier Investigation," financed by Fonda. They recorded testimony from supposed disgruntled Vietnam veterans about atrocities and war crimes... testimony that turns out to have been largely false. According to Mackubin Thomas Owens, Vietnam veteran and professor at the Naval War College, the Naval Investigative Service "discovered that some of the most grisly testimony was given by fake witnesses who had appropriated the names of real Vietnam veterans." Among others, Al Hubbard, Kerry's partner in the VVAW, was in fact lying about his rank and service in Vietnam. When John Kerry testified before the US Senate in April 1971, he was acting in his capacity as spokesman for the VVAW. Kerry accused all American soldiers of war crimes, and the United States government of full knowledge of them. Kerry claimed that atrocities were "not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command." Tapes of Kerry's speech were played over and over for American prisoners of war in Hanoi, as they were tortured to make them confess to war crimes they never committed -- the atrocities Kerry accused them of committing.
That's giving aid and comfort to the enemy, defined as treason in the Constitution (Article III, Section 3). The penalty for treason is defined in the United States Code of Law (Title 18, Part I, Chapter 115, Section 2381). "Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
Kerry also admitted to committing atrocities himself. On Meet The Press in April 1971, Kerry attempted to absolve himself of the responsibility for what he had done, accusing the government of the United States of forcing him to commit war crimes. Kerry did not mention whether he was alone when he performed the acts he confessed to:
I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare. All of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down.
It sounds as though the only person Kerry can be certain was razing villages "in a fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan" was Kerry himself. Despite his confession on national television, Kerry was never brought before a court-martial. Note that a "free-fire zone" is not an order to "shoot anything that moves," but the discretion to fire first if a threat is perceived.
According to FBI surveillance reports, Kerry was present at a Kansas City VVAW meeting in November 1971, during which the members voted on a plan to assassinate several US Senators who supported the Vietnam War. Among the intended targets discussed were Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, John Tower of Texas and John Stennis of Mississippi. Although the idea was voted down, Kerry never reported the serious consideration of political assasination, as the law requires. Kerry resigned from the VVAW on the third day, after the vote was taken.
But Kerry's worst act occurred in June 1970. During Kerry's testimony before the Senate, he damned himself out of his own mouth. "I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government..." According to the Judicial Watch request for review of Kerry's awards filed on 18 August 2004, "[t]he Vietnamese Communists eagerly met Senator Kerry and benefited directly from the obvious propaganda victory." Kerry was still an officer in the Naval Reserve at the time of this meeting, and we were still at war with North Vietnam when Kerry took it upon himself to meet with the enemy leaders. The Uniform Code of Military Justice (Subchapter X, Section 904, Article 104) states:
Any person who--
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly; shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.
John Kerry has violated the Constitution and the United States Code of Law as well as the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the Geneva Conventions, all by his own admissions. What is he doing running for the office of President of the United States? What, in fact, is he doing a free man, and holding any office at all?
Is there a statute of limitations on treason?
Posted at Thursday, September 02, 2004 by CavalierX
 |  |  | Jamie September 2, 2004 08:17 PM PDT
AMEN!
You didn't mention that he attended a VVAW meeting in Kansas City where members voted on a plan to assassinate members of Congress. I believe he was in the Reserves at the time.
I may have ranted about this before. If so, please forgive me.
Here is the link to a story about the KC meeting:
http://tinyurl.com/2erm9 |  |
  |  |  | JM September 2, 2004 08:29 PM PDT
Frankly, I was going to, but couldn't find a reference to the law that governs failure to report an assassination attempt on a public figure. :( |  |
  |  |  | Mark September 2, 2004 08:38 PM PDT
Good post.
I'd like to see some campaign ads that point out some of these positions Kerry has taken. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have already ran ads regarding the medal tossing in 1971. |  |
  |  |  | B-Qool September 3, 2004 09:08 AM PDT
Whether Kerry "earned" his metals or not, committed "atrocities" in Vietnam or not, the fact is he WENT. He was not down south drinking mint-julip tea with his buddies while minding over his Daddy's plantation. The man went to war. A war that cost American's their lives every day! Oh, and he wasn't the only soldier that came out of Vietnam protesting the war. I'd rather have someone who was there tell America it was brutal and unnecessary war rather than a sign-carrying, flower-toting hippie liberal tell us. Does any of this get him my vote? Maybe not. But it does get him my respect. |  |
  |  |  | JM September 3, 2004 09:17 AM PDT
Note that neither his service in Vietnam nor his legal opposition to the Vietnam war (which was necessary to stop the spread of Communism, but was not fought to win) are being questioned -- only his illegal activities. Of course, most Liberals never look at what a person actually says. That would lead to honest discussion, and we can't have that, can we? Easier to knock down strawmen and spew vitriolic DNC talking points. |  |
  |  |  | JM September 3, 2004 09:40 AM PDT
>You didn't mention that he
>attended a VVAW meeting in
>Kansas City
Just added it :) |  |
  |  |  | Laura September 3, 2004 06:18 PM PDT
"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are sabateurs and shuld be arrested, exiled or hanged."
President A. Lincoln
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  |  |  | Watcher September 4, 2004 05:22 PM PDT
But, but, but... Halliburton! |  |
  |  |  | Si September 4, 2004 06:43 PM PDT
Isn't it a widely held fact that during and after the Vietnam War George was having a nice time getting drunk and living off his father? Correct me if I'm wrong...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1296350,00.html |  |
  |  |  | JM September 4, 2004 07:05 PM PDT
If that's the best possible Democrat response to this, it may be the death penalty for John "I fought for this country -- before I fought against it" Kerry. |  |
  |  |  | Jamie September 4, 2004 07:26 PM PDT
Here is some fuel to add to the fire. Read this story about Kerry's visits to meet with the N Vietnamese.
http://tinyurl.com/4z626
"Newly released FBI files reveal that presumed Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry attended a second meeting with North Vietnamese communists in Paris in the early 1970s. Kerry has previously admitted to meeting only once with the North Vietnamese delegations in 1970."
Oh yeah, and don't forget about the North Vietnamese honoring Kerry's contribution in their War Museum. |  |
  |  |  | Watcher September 5, 2004 12:42 AM PDT
But, but, but... DUI! AWOL! Hitler! W00t! W00t! |  |
  |  |  | DagneyT September 5, 2004 08:24 AM PDT
Bcool, get your facts from the right sources and you will learn that the only reason W didn't go to Nam was because they stopped using his plane in Nam. When he joined that squad, 1/3 of the pilots were already in Nam, and he knew there was a good chance he'd have to go, until the deemed his plane as unfit for the kind of warfare they were facing over there! Sheesh! I grew up during that time. You kids don't know a damn thing about what was going on.
And can someone tell me how a man who should be in prison for treason be running for ANY office, let alone Commander and Chief? |  |
  |  |  | d_Brit September 12, 2004 07:43 PM PDT
The saddest thing is that democrats will not even acknowledge the truth of Kerry's treason, much less agree that he should be held accountable for his betrayal.
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  |  |  | Kenneth R. Smelley October 12, 2004 05:21 AM PDT
Damn, you write well. I have spent the last hour reading. (We do not have troops in NORTH Korea). But other than that I was impressed. You even knew 32 feet per second/per second. I am retired military-not a General, only a Sergeant Major. I have personally stood in the Fulda Gap, on the Korean DMZ, fought in TET 68 and 69. I was not in combat for four months, more like 40.
Does that make me special? I don't think so.(In my family it moves me right up there to piker status) Just a proud American, trying to give something back. |  |
  |  |  | JM October 12, 2004 09:15 PM PDT
Thanks for what you've said, Sergeant Major, and even more for what you've done. North Korea? Must be a typo somewhere. Let me know where it occurred, so it can be corrected. |  |
  |  |  | chancuff August 12, 2006 03:20 PM PDT
"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale & undermine the military are saboteurs & should be arrested, exiled, or hanged." - President Abraham Lincoln
Lincoln never said this. Ever. This quote is a fabrication of Dr. J. Michael Waller who first wrote it in 2003 shortly before the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth gave it life in 2004. How pathetic has the Republican Party become that it insults the reputation of America's finest Republican president for their political gain?
Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too |  |
  |  |  | JM August 12, 2006 04:49 PM PDT
>This quote is a fabrication of Dr. J.
>Michael Waller
Sorry, but that quote came from a June 1863 letter that President Lincoln wrote, published that year in pamphlet form as "The Truth from an Honest Man: The Letter of the President," by King & Baird Printers in Philadelphia and distributed by the Union League. Now, you may wish to argue that the pamphlet misquoted the President. But you can't say that Waller invented it. |  |
  |  |  | chancuff August 25, 2006 09:55 PM PDT
are you sure?
I let Brooks Jackson xerox one of my copies of THE TRUTH FROM AN HONEST MAN" to Brooks Jackson.
http://factcheck.org/article415.html
Enjoy reading about Waller attempts to blame some editor for this, despite the words he wrote immediately after inventing this quote, ""that's what President Abraham Lincoln said during the War Between the States."
Read Waller's article yourself, then decide.
http://www.envirosagainstwar.org/know/read.php?itemid=1068
Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too |  |
  |  |  | JM August 25, 2006 11:23 PM PDT
As for the first link: thanks for the update. I'll certainly correct anyone I see using it. Of course, although Lincoln may not have said those exact words, the article you point to does include this quote from him:
"Long experience has shown that armies can not be maintained unless desertion shall be punished by the severe penalty of death. The case requires, and the law and the Constitution, sanction this punishment -- Must I shoot a simple-minded soldier boy who deserts, while I must not touch a hair of a wiley agitator who induces him to desert?"
Lincoln understood that the morale of the army can be undermined by "agitators," and that those people should be held responsible, in part at least, for the actions of the deserters they influence.
As for the second link, I wouldn't trust a site called "envirosagainstwar" for anything, sorry. |  |
  |  |  | Name September 4, 2006 01:40 AM PDT
"Long experience has shown that armies can not be maintained unless desertion shall be punished by the severe penalty of death. The case requires, and the law and the Constitution, sanction this punishment -- Must I shoot a simple-minded soldier boy who deserts, while I must not touch a hair of a wiley agitator who induces him to desert?"
Thank you, I know. I own 2 original 1863 TRUTH FROM AN HONEST MAN phamplets. I loaned on to Factcheck for their use.
I'm quite familiar with what Abraham Lincoln wrote to Erastus Corning in the letter you copied from Dr. Waller's remarkable article.
I highly recommend you visit the Library of Congress website, where you can find the full text of this letter and see what Waller INTENTIONALLY left out.
"As for the second link, I wouldn't trust a site called "envirosagainstwar" for anything, sorry."
Fair enough. Insight Magazine has Waller's article in their achives. I presume Waller's original publisher of this article meets your standards.
Follow the fun watching a goofball Retired Air Force Colonel, and active-duty goofball in the Freeper lineup, crash&burn.
http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/589102094
Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too |  |
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