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Sunday, November 21, 2004
Exploding Liberal Myths 8: The Nazi Meme

Once again, we're being "treated" to the same tired old cries of Liberal outrage. How dare the stupid people of America not whole-heartedly embrace Liberal ideas and policies? Why, they must all be mind-controlled. They must all be... Nazis! The latest in a long string of Hollywood half-wits to invoke the Nazi meme is Linda Ronstadt, who said of the election, "Now we've got a new bunch of Hitlers." Such diverse personalities as David Hoffman (the Legal Editor of Pravda), Senator (and former Kleagle in the KKK) Bobby "Sheets" Byrd (D-WVa), novelist/priest Andrew Greeley, former Vice-President Al Gore, and multi-billionaire anti-American George Soros (funder of MoveOn.org and other left-wing groups) have all torpedoed their own arguments by invoking Nazi comparisons, as have thousands of other politicians, artists, pundits and garden-variety Liberals.

"Nazi" is a sort of pet insult many Liberals use to taunt Conservatives without understanding what it really means, the same way a three-year-old will endlessly repeat any four-letter words you might happen to drop in front of him or her. The more you say, "don't say that; it's a bad word" the more likely you are to hear it. The Nazi epithet is so over-abused there's even a rule concerning it on the internet, called Godwin's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. Sooner or later, someone's going to resurrect the Nazis... and whoever does so is generally understood to have lost the argument. Comparing someone to a Nazi involves far more of an emotional appeal than a factual argument, unless the person is, in fact, a card-carrying Nazi. If you're not actually discussing genocide and brutal world domination, the Nazi comparison is just plain offensive. What confuses most people is its frequent application to pretty much anybody to the ideological right of Lenin. In fact, the Nazis were actually Socialists by nature, not capitalists. In a 1927 speech, Hitler said, "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

The word "Nazi" is short for Nationalsozialistische deutsche Arbeiter-Partei, or National Socialist German Workers' Party. Hitler came to power by turning the unemployed, the working class, and the academic elitists against the rather conservative German republic. In fact, once he achieved power, anyone who questioned his policies was branded a "conservative reactionary" by the State press. In a widely-distributed 1932 pamphlet, Joseph Goebbels addressed the question of Socialism. "We are socialists," he wrote, "because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces."

The Nazi Party platform contained 25 demands, adopted in 1920 and essentially unaltered at the time Hitler took power. Many of those Socialist demands resonate far better with modern-day American Liberals than Conservatives. Consider the following examples:

7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens.

Does this sound more akin to the Liberal belief that the government is responsible for job losses or gains, or the Conservative position that jobs are created by private enterprise (though helped or hindered by current economic policies)? Does it sound like a demand for welfare?

11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

This is aimed directly at landlords and large business owners. It hardly seems likely that capitalists and Conservatives would insist that no one receive any money unless they personally earn it by doing the actual work themselves.

12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

If that doesn't sound like today's standard Liberal hate speech against Halliburton, nothing ever will.

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

Nationalisation of industries is hardly in line with the Conservative aim of privatisation of industries. It's Liberals, in general, who want to nationalise industries (starting with healthcare).

14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

Wealth redistribution? Does that sound like a particularly right-wing ideal?

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

Republicans and Conservatives are accused of wanting to halt Medicare and steal Social Security in every election cycle, so this demand for expansion could hardly be a part of any Conservative agenda.

25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general.

Conservatives, who favor more limited government with lower taxes (in order to restrict its growth), would directly oppose a strong central government with unlimited authority (possibly resisting with guns, which German citizens first had to register, then surrender).

Despite the historical facts, Liberals frequently insist on equating Conservatives and Republicans to Nazis. This is only done to stir up feelings of hate, of course. If Democrats want to know why they keep losing elections, it's because they allow the left-wing politics of hatred to be their public face. Until the Democrats relegate Liberals to the minority fringe where they belong, we will continue to see the country slide towards a one-party system, which would be detrimental to us all.

UPDATE: The Belmont Club also rips the Nazi meme apart.

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Posted at Sunday, November 21, 2004 by CavalierX

skye
November 21, 2004   09:16 AM PST
 


The moonbats are gonna love this one :)

Jamie
November 21, 2004   09:25 PM PST
 
I've always been amazed at the liberals calling Republicans "Nazis". Just amazed. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that real HISTORY is no longer taught in the elementary schools. Now they teach "social studies". And the history books that are out there were written by liberals , as well as most of the other textbooks being used in schools.
Iread
November 22, 2004   09:10 AM PST
 
I know it is incorrect to say conservatives are NAZIS, but you have got to be nuts to say the NAZIS were socialists.

What next neo-cons are really communists in disguise?
Jenn
November 22, 2004   09:23 AM PST
 
"you have got to be nuts to say the NAZIS were socialists"

Did you even bother to READ the article before you posted that? Liberals are amazing.
Iread
November 22, 2004   09:36 AM PST
 
> I know it is incorrect to say conservatives are NAZIS

Jenn can't you read?

Not every one who disagrees with something is automatically a liberal!

I just think it is common knowledge around the world both in politics and academia that NAZIS/Fascists are not in any way Socialists.

It is like saying Hitler had two arms and two legs so therefore he is the same as President Bush.

I don't think so!
Downunder
November 22, 2004   09:52 AM PST
 
Guys you need to get out more.

John Howard the Prime Minister of Australia and an staunch political and economic ally of George Bush is leader of the LIBERAL Party.

He is a conservative and the Liberal Party is conservative and has also has been conservative.

They happen to call themselves Liberals but it means something different to your narrow minded idea of Liberal.

Just because the NAZIS were National Socialists did not not mean they were SOCIALISTS in any way shape or form.
Jenn
November 22, 2004   09:54 AM PST
 
"I just think it is common knowledge around the world both in politics and academia that NAZIS/Fascists are not in any way Socialists."

So you DIDN'T bother to read the article. That's what I thought.
Iread
November 22, 2004   09:59 AM PST
 
Okay Jenn, you win and I will accept your logic which taken to its conclusion means President Bush is the same as Hitler
Jenn
November 22, 2004   10:01 AM PST
 
You Liberals are SO funny!
Iread
November 22, 2004   10:11 AM PST
 
Jenn,

It is funny because you are so stupid and I am not a Liberal.

At least someone down under has got a brain!
Jenn
November 22, 2004   10:21 AM PST
 
I love how anyone who dares disagree with you must be stupid. It's the same elitist attitude that keeps losing elections for your side., Keep it up, please.
Jamie
November 22, 2004   12:27 PM PST
 
SO, when Hitler said in a 1927 speech, "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions" - he was lying? Or did he not know that just by saying "we are Socialists" it really didn't mean a whole lot?
JM
November 22, 2004   08:42 PM PST
 
>Or did he not know that just by
>saying "we are Socialists" it really
>didn't mean a whole lot?

Must be a nuance thing. It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
skye
November 23, 2004   06:49 PM PST
 

It is just what this article is addressing...

The narrow minds of the liberals in the United States.

The main argumentative stance, if it could be called one, is to throw out inflammatory words. "Nazi" "Hitler" to name a few, and with closer inspection of these terms one can easily conclude that the liberal moonbats are seriously off the mark.

What this labelling by the "free thinking" liberals illuminates is thier gross lack of basic understanding of politics and political history.





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They happen to call themselves Liberals but it means something different to your narrow minded idea of Liberal.
seneca
November 24, 2004   07:05 PM PST
 
I am european, and is true, nazis and comunist had something in common they hate individual freedom and market economy, they like big states and to rule the lifes of their citizens, if we can call citizens those who have the bad luck to live under those systems, and an aclaration, in europe liberal means capitalists, in spanish LIBERTAD is the equivalent of FREEDOM, so liberals are those who defends individual freedom, its sad to see that spanish word for freedom is used to describe american socialists.
 

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