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Score One For Democracy... Three For Terrorism
Score One For Democracy... Three For Terrorism
It's sad, even tragic, that for every advance abroad, we seem to take several steps backward at home. Our enemies no longer have any need to attack America directly -- they have the services of the "mainstream" media and the political Left.
Despite the Left's continued attempts to portray Iraq as a failure or disaster, that country is well on its way to becoming the focal point of a spreading Middle Eastern democracy -- the only realistic answer to terrorism's root cause. Two critical tests remain for the Iraqi government: whether they can form a stable government out of the 275 members of Parliament that have recently been elected, and whether its members can effect a smooth transition of power when their term of office ends in four years.
Events are taking place in the Middle East that have never happened there before, and never quickly and smoothly anywhere. It was seven years between the end of the American Revolution and the time our own Constitution took effect in 1789. If ratification had been thrown open to a popular vote as it was in Iraq, the process would certainly have taken well over a decade. How can three years be termed a "failure" by any but the childishly impatient standards of Liberals? No reasonable person expected this process to take less than three to five years, even without the meddling of Iran and Syria -- not to mention the terrorists and their "war on this evil principle known as democracy."
The Coalition government appointed a representative group of Iraqis to write a temporary constitution; Iraqis voted under that constitution in January 2005 to elect an interim government of their own. The interim government wrote a permanent constitution that was ratified by 79% of the voters in October 2005. Iraqis recently turned out in overwhelming numbers, coming from all factions and ethnic groups, to vote for their first democratically-elected government -- the first such government in the entire Arab world. Now the members of the Iraqi Parliament will have the chance to participate in a give-and-take representative governing system such as we have... well, no one said a democratic government was perfect, but it's certainly better than a fascist dictatorship. Iraqis have bootstrapped themselves from a collapsed totalitarian government to free elections under their own constitution in less than three years, with our help.
On the other hand, home politics have forced what can only be seen as victories for our enemies in the War on Terror, offsetting our amazing successes abroad. Democratic Senators are filibustering the renewal of the PATRIOT Act -- a piece of legislation hated by the Left for no good reason. Not one single instance of abuse of any citizen's civil liberties under the Act has ever been verified. All the PATRIOT Act really does is allow the same methods used for investigating organised crime, serial killings and drug rings to be used when investigating terrorism. Yet some Senators are working to undermine the PATRIOT Act, on the shaky grounds that they think can see a way someone might possibly figure out how to abuse it somehow, though it may take a concerted effort of the entire Federal government to do so. If the PATRIOT Act is not renewed, key provisions expire at the end of 2005 -- and those who block it will be partially responsible for any future acts of terror that could have been prevented by it.
Aiding the Democrats in their effort to undermine the President are, of course, the members of the "mainstream" media. Just as the Senate went into heated debate over renewing the PATRIOT Act, the New York Times decided to attack the President for allowing wiretaps of phone conversations in America several years ago. Ramping up unfounded fears of unconstitutional government activities is a sure way to pressure Senators to let the PATRIOT Act lapse. The story (coincidentally printed just in time to aid sales of the author's upcoming book on the subject) claims that the President unlawfully allowed the NSA to listen in on foreign conversations involving American citizens without getting an advance court order. The only part of the claim that's untrue is the word "unlawfully."
It turns out that not only was the action authorised under FISA (the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978), but that some of the members of Congress pretending to be shocked by this revelation were kept apprised of the NSA's actions all along. Though FISA contains a clause preventing secret surveillance of a "United States person," the character of someone who might be an "agent of a foreign power" -- which includes anyone working with a terrorist group -- should logically pre-empt that designation. Naturally, if America's security agencies are prevented from tapping American phones even when used by terrorists, all the terrorists need to do is pick up some disposable cellphones with American numbers and throw them away after one use, before a court order to tap them can be obtained. Thanks to the New York Times and whoever leaked information about a secret, legal tactic to gather information on terrorist activities, this will probably become standard operating procedure for terrorists in the future.
Last, but certainly not least, is the protection for terrorists recently advanced by Senator John McCain (R-AZ) and agreed to by President Bush. This is a blow to US efforts to glean information from captured terrorists. McCain wants to prevent the US from using torture or "degrading treatment" to coerce terror detainees to surrender information. McCain's answer to critics is that the President could simply authorise breaking the law under extreme circumstances. Well, then, what's the point of writing such a law in the first place? Laws should not be written just because they sound nice and get a US Senator media approval. That's a poor use of my tax dollars.
The torture part is not a problem -- the US does not condone the torture of anyone, not even terrorists. The question is what constitutes torture. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales defined torture in 2002 as inflicting severe pain, organ failure or permanent damage that was "specifically intended." The Left has used that definition (since broadened to exclude some highly aggressive methods) arrived at by Gonzales' legal team to slander him as "condoning torture" ever since. Gonzales expressed no personal opinion on the use of aggressive interrogation techniques, however. Mere discomfort or fright is simply not torture, despite the Left's hypersensitive caterwauling, and can lead to cooperation by breaking the subject's morale. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, a high-ranking al-Qaeda leader (and 9/11 planner) captured in 2003, lasted all of two-and-a-half minutes before breaking down under the "waterboarding" technique, which simulates drowning but has no lasting physical effect.
The word "degrading," however, is far too ambiguous and subjective to be used without definition. Many on the Left feel that the terrorists themselves should get to decide what's "degrading." If a terror suspect objects to wearing handcuffs, not being able to choose his own clothing or having a woman anywhere in sight range, he could term his treatment "degrading" -- and many on the Left would accept that as a proper description. Personally, I feel it's degrading to Americans to be forced to treat terrorists as honorable opponents who follow any sort of honor code. There can be no reasonable objection to aggressive interrogation techniques that force subjects to reveal information that saves American lives, as long as real torture is not involved. Name-calling, orange jumpsuits and rap "music" should certainly not be defined as "degrading" (although the rap could be classified as "torture.")
If we're going to get anywhere in this war, we have got to stop treating terrorists with kid gloves, cease granting them rights and privileges they don't have and don't deserve. Why would any captured terrorist give up information, knowing that there's nothing we can do to him to make him talk -- not even keep him up past his bedtime? The fact that terrorists think we're too soft and spineless to fight back was the reason they kept attacking us with increasing ferocity and confidence through the decade culminating in 9/11.
Were they right, after all?
14 Jan 06 UPDATE: I'm not surprised by the sudden surge in sales of disposable cellphones, as reported by ABC News:
Federal agents have launched an investigation into a surge in the purchase of large quantities of disposable cell phones by individuals from the Middle East and Pakistan, ABC News has learned.
The phones — which do not require purchasers to sign a contract or have a credit card — have many legitimate uses, and are popular with people who have bad credit or for use as emergency phones tucked away in glove compartments or tackle boxes. But since they can be difficult or impossible to track, law enforcement officials say the phones are widely used by criminal gangs and terrorists.
Posted at Sunday, December 18, 2005 by CavalierX
 |  |  | Paladin December 18, 2005 02:39 PM PST
Personally i think the left is being pay off by some of those terrorists. It is the ONLY logical explanation for the extremly retarded way they're acting. |  |
  |  |  | Skye December 18, 2005 03:18 PM PST
I truly believe that Pelosi is a card carrying member of al-queda.
This posting nails it, Cav! Great work :) |  |
  |  |  | Debbie December 18, 2005 05:12 PM PST
What a great post. Excellent. I'm going to post a link to this article on Right Truth and send folks over to read. Keep it up.
If the liberals had to choose between Bush and the terrorists, I have no doubt they would choose the terrorists. |  |
  |  |  | Laura December 18, 2005 07:57 PM PST
Skye: Nancy is a card carrying Socialist heading the Progressive Caucus in the House. Until 1999 this Caucus was hosted by Democratic Socialists of America. After that I think there was a name change but I'm not sure about that. She is no fan of Democracy for sure.
Ref.: Google |  |
  |  |  | Rhetoricia2 December 18, 2005 08:51 PM PST
I'll be disappointed if there is not an investigation into the leak(s) relating to the NY Opines/Slimes article -- including the book one of its writers will publish next month.
I have the feeling the NYT wanted to get a jump on releasing the allegations against the President before the book did.
Please let there be an investigation -- I want <talking> heads to roll and <moonbat> fur to fly over this breach of national security.
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  |  |  | BjornE December 19, 2005 12:40 AM PST
There seems to be a fifth colon inside the US with supporters in MSM and among polticians.
If I was one of those I would do my vutmost to rewoke the Patriot Act also. |  |
  |  |  | David A December 19, 2005 12:07 PM PST
Let's review, shall we?
Since 9/11, we have not captured the person responsible for the worst terrorist attack on US soil. We had him "surrounded" on three sides then let him get away. Bush "does not spend too much time thinking about him" ever since.
Instead, we invade a country that had nothing to do with the events of 9/11, using cherry-picked (and faulty) intelligence while ignoring volumes of evidence to the contrary -- just so that we could supply the training ground for future terrorists. (yep, we fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here -- until later, when they are battle ready)
It is a good thing for Iraq to be a democracy -- of their own choosing. But I don't think you are quite ready to have another Iran, which is the direction Iraq is heading. But you are fooling yourself if you don't think this whole thing is going to end up in a civil war before it is all over. (some argue that is what is occuring right now)
Iraqis came out to vote in droves -- a wonderful thing. But the number one motivation for their doing so was the hope that it would cause the foreign troops to pack up and leave as soon as possible. They know that the longer US coalition troops remain, the longer the insurgency will continue.
Creating a democracy has always been a messy endeavor, and the sacrifices must be borne by those seeking it, not those trying to artificially impose it. We planted the seeds, but it is up to the Iraqi people to make it grow -- and we should leave them to that task.
When Osama bin Laden attacked the US, he had three objectives in mind:
1. Removal of US troops from the holy lands in Saudi Arabia
2. US invasion of a Middle East country to provide a battle field
3. The creation of a truly Islamic state
Bush has almost accomplished all three of those demands. |  |
  |  |  | mannning December 19, 2005 01:01 PM PST
I claim that our soldiers are very sensitive to the charges of torture, and avoid it where possible. But, they will not sacrifice their moral imperative of saving lives for the somewhat lesser moral imperative of thou shalt not torture, never mind what the UCMJ or McCain's Amendment says. |  |
  |  |  | JM December 19, 2005 01:51 PM PST
>we have not captured the person
>responsible for the worst terrorist
>attack on US soil
So you think it was just one, do you? If we capture the Evil Supervillain, and all terrorism will melt away, is that it? Son, the one living person MOST directly responsible for 9/11 was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and we got him long ago.
>We had him "surrounded" on
>three sides then let him get away
That's a nice myth, but you have no facts to back it up. Of course, it's not like we allowed him a decade to develop escape plans and safe-houses, is it?
>Instead, we invade a country that
>had nothing to do with the events
>of 9/11
Aside from the fact that the 9/11 hijackers most likely trained at Salman Pak, Iraq was supporting and supplying terror groups of all kinds, which was one reason why Saddam had to go. You really should pay attention to something besides DNC talking points.
>using cherry-picked (and faulty)
>intelligence while ignoring
>volumes of evidence to the
>contrary
We really SHOULD take the UN to task for telling us just weeks before the invasion of Iraq that Saddam still had tons and tons of WMDs stockpiled in Iraq. Then we should go after every intelligence service in the world for saying the exact same thing for over a decade.
>the training ground for future
>terrorists
You mean killing ground.
>It is a good thing for Iraq to be a
>democracy -- of their own
>choosing. But
HAH! I knew there'd be a "but." There's ALWAYS a "but" when Liberals say democracy is a good thing, or that the shutting down of rape rooms and mass graves is a good thing, or that the end of a terrorist supporter is a good thing...
>I don't think you are quite ready
>to have another Iran
ANOTHER Iran? The one we "have" now is going to screw itself right into the ground soon. Very few Iraqis would want a religious theocracy. You really should pay attention... oh, never mind. You're a Liberal.
>this whole thing is going to end up
>in a civil war before it is all over
You Libs keep hoping and (dare I say) praying for bad news from Iraq, just to make President Bush and America look bad. That's really sick.
>Iraqis came out to vote in droves -
>- a wonderful thing. But
Ha, ha, ha! There it is again!
>They know that the longer US
>coalition troops remain, the longer
>the insurgency will continue.
That's funny, since the "insurgency" is running out of steam due to the spread of democracy and the increase of trained Iraqi troops, and only the terrorists and criminals will soon remain.
>We planted the seeds, but it is up
>to the Iraqi people to make it
>grow -- and we should leave them
>to that task.
Tell you what -- get your buddy Zarqawi, as well as the governments of Iraq and Syria, to stay the hell out of Iraq, and we'll see how fast the country calms down, eh? |  |
  |  |  | JM December 19, 2005 09:39 PM PST
Oh, and thanks, Debbie and Skye, for the links. :) |  |
  |  |  | Neal Lang December 20, 2005 11:28 AM PST
"Iraqis came out to vote in droves -- a wonderful thing. But the number one motivation for their doing so was the hope that it would cause the foreign troops to pack up and leave as soon as possible. "
Hmmm! Is that the reason you vote? Amazing! Why can't at least try to attribute to the Iraqi people the reason MOST Americans go to the polls - to participate in "democratically" selecting their own leaders. Unit Operation: Iraqi Freedom - that was impossible for them. Now, thanks to the US and a few other countries that are members of the Coalition of the Willing - they at least have a change. Something they never would have had, if it were up to the UN and countries like France, Russia, and Germany - whose leaders were in Saddam's pocket.
Wake up and smell the victory - thank God we have a great leader like George W. Bush. |  |
  |  |  | Neal Lang December 20, 2005 11:41 AM PST
"There seems to be a fifth colon inside the US with supporters in MSM and among polticians. "
Hmmm! "5th colon" - obviously a "Freudian slip"! In any event - you got your message across - you are "bang on" and I agree 100%! |  |
  |  |  | Friend of USA December 20, 2005 03:49 PM PST
If name calling is torture, then the average liberal is guilty of torture.
A " Bush = Hitler " protest sign or t-shirt is torture.
Watching liberals speak, think and act is like watching a dog run around the post he is tied to until he is left with a couple inches of leash.
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  |  |  | Paladin December 20, 2005 08:33 PM PST
Just remember folks if the democrats didn't do it it ain't right. It's amazing that we can do anything right EVER without them holding our hands. |  |
  |  |  | Notta Libb December 23, 2005 02:28 AM PST
Check out a funny site dedicated to the absurdity and satire nature of saying “It’s All George Bush’s Fault!"
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http://www.itsallgeorgebushsfault.com
I hope that you don't think this is spam. I really do think that you'd appreciate a site like this since we share the same idealogy. Hopefully you like it enough to blogroll
Regards,
Notta Libb |  |
  |  |  | Raposa December 29, 2005 10:25 AM PST
Merry Christmas, Cav!
I've noticed that a number of people (often people who are otherwise pleasant, intelligent folks) will throw themselves into a panic at any possibility of abuse. They see some way to twist a law or pursue a loophole to do the 'wrong thing', and then assume that there are TONS of people who are willing to exploit it and do so, often with full support of some portion of the government. It came up the first time the torture debate got underway- we got to see the standards, and I had a friend panic at one of them- that an act must be intended to be torture to be torture. It didn't matter to that person that medical procedures that can save lives could be defined as torture if that caveat wasn't there- all that person could see was the potential for abuse, which of course meant that somebody, somewhere, had to be abusing it.
Freaked me out to see them do that, frankly. But it seems to be like BDS- normal, reasonable, smart people will just slip a gear when they get to that topic.
It seems to be a lot like the assumption that soldiers are either borderline psychopaths just waiting for a chance to kill and torture or are programmed, mindless automations following the orders of their superiors without any other thought in their heads. |  |
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