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Saturday, December 24, 2005
Exploding Liberal Myths 11: Home Spying Hogwash
Exploding Liberal Myths 11: Home Spying Hogwash
Prior to 21st century America, had one group of officials tried to prevent their own government from discovering the plans of enemy agents hiding among the populace, they would have been tried for treason -- if they were lucky. Had some members of Congress tried to prevent the government from tapping the phones of known Nazi collaborators during WWII, or attempted to protect the "right" of Confederate spies to pass information to the South during the Civil War, they would have been arrested. Unlike anything we've seen before, the Left is turning national security and the prosecution of a war against terrorists into political talking points.
Since shortly after 9/11, the NSA has been monitoring international phone calls to and from domestic phone numbers known to be affiliated with al-Qaeda associates. Without an easy way to communicate with al-Qaeda leaders overseas, another attack would be more difficult for terrorists to plan and execute. It was a wartime decision essential to our defense, and as such came directly under the authority of the President as commander-in-chief. Those who claim that the Legislative or Judicial branches of the Federal government should have control over military decisions are clearly unfamiliar with the Constitutional separation of powers, or how "efficiently" bureaucrats can run a war. The Left likes to pretend terrorism is merely a matter of civilian law enforcement, but this is a war, not an episode of CSI: Terrorism. Treating terrorism as a law enforcement matter, like jaywalking or stealing apples, is what allowed al-Qaeda to plan 9/11 so elaborately and secretly in the first place.
The fact that phone calls with al-Qaeda have been monitored is not news, though the Left seems to think it is. In 2002, the Associated Press reported that the government had "recently uncovered numerous calls from difficult-to-track prepaid cell phones, Internet-based phone service, prepaid phone cards and public pay phones in the United States to known al-Qaeda locations overseas." The story mentioned that the phone calls were "one piece of a growing body of evidence pointing to the presence of suspected members of terrorist sleeper cells operating on U.S. soil, and a growing sophistication on their part to keep their communications secret." The Left's response, three years later, is to attack the Bush administration for not having the proper paperwork on file when they eavesdropped on conversations with terrorists.
In fact, warrantless electronic surveillance has been done before, and since the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was signed in 1978. President Carter authorised wiretapping without requiring a court order in 1979. President Reagan authorised warrantless searches against agents of a foreign power. President Clinton authorised electronic surveillance without a warrant in 1995, as well as physical searches of property. Clinton's Deputy Attorney General, Jamie Gorelick, testified before the Senate that the "Department of Justice believes, and the case law supports, that the president has inherent authority to conduct warrantless physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes." Some may remember Gorelick as the person responsible for building up the wall between law enforcement agencies that kept them from sharing information they gathered during terrorism investigations.
But does electronic surveillance without a court-issued warrant violate the law? In 2002, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review examined the issue of warrantless surveillance. The Court noted that "all the other courts to have decided the issue, held that the President did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information." Is the President's authority under the Constitution limited by FISA? "We take for granted," the Court stated, "that the President does have that authority and, assuming that is so, FISA could not encroach on the President's constitutional power." Since that is precisely what FISA was created to do, doesn't that essentially make FISA itself unconstitutional?
And what of our Constitutional rights? There is, as yet, no evidence that American citizens were targeted for electronic surveillance, but what if they were? The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution protects us against "unreasonable searches and seizures." Is it unreasonable to tap phone numbers discovered in al-Qaeda databases? Is it unreasonable to listen in on phone calls to or from known al-Qaeda locations?
The Left is merely ramping up paranoia, hoping that people fearful of government intrusion will vote the Big Government party into power in 2006 and 2008. The fact is that no one actually cares about your recipe exchanges with Aunt Sally, or how you complain about your boss and to whom. Unless your Aunt Sally is a known al-Qaeda operative in Pakistan, no one's even listening.
If Osama bin Laden calls me up from his Baluchistan hideout, however, you can bet I want the Feds taking notes. Moreover, I want them tracking the call to its source and sending every JDAM and MOAB in our inventory.
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Posted at Saturday, December 24, 2005 by CavalierX
 |  |  | Skye December 25, 2005 01:52 PM PST
Great meme, as usual!
This rant does not cover the illegal monitoring by NORAD of Santa Claus as he makes his away across the US.
Merry Christmas, Cav! |  |
  |  |  | Laura December 25, 2005 02:24 PM PST
If the mad liberals are trying to make me fearful of Govt. wiretaps they have failed miserably. I am more fearful that Democratic obstrutionists are more worried about terrorist rights than mine. |  |
  |  |  | RA December 27, 2005 02:39 PM PST
These Bush hating ACLU Democrats are attempting to empower the fifth column in the US. They don't care if we get hit again because they would use it against Bush and the Republicans. So they try to make it easier for the terrorists. They are the friends of our enemies and need to be defeated by any means.
If a Democrat was in office they would not be saying a word because their buddy would pay for another attack.
Democrats are scum. |  |
  |  |  | smf January 5, 2006 11:09 AM PST
What do you think about this. This was e-mailed to me.
I've been over and over this
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again and again. Typically, you don't deal with primary sources. You find emotional-based, non-sources who warp facts and who have no more experience or professional educational foundation in subject matter than you do, and then you quote them as fact . . . just because it appeared in English. You don't distinguish between QUALITY OF SOURCES!
Try to do this yourself. Start with the law, linked above. You can do this. Read for yourself.
The law is written in TWO PARTS, one applies to acquiring foreign intelligence ON FOREIGN SOIL, and the other applies to applying foreign intelligence ON DOMESTIC SOIL.
Clinton's Executive Order, cited previouly, issues TWO DIRECTIVES that mandate compliance with each section independently!
Now to answer the question which you were asked previously, but could not(because you don't deal in primary sources), BUSH DID NOT comply with the domestic surveillance provisions of the act! You can read the ACT and you can read Clinton's EO, and you can easily see where the EO complies with the ACT. You can also understand that Bush's admitting that he spied OUTSIDE the act means that he intentionally AVOIDED THE DOMESTIC SECTION of the act. He is in compliance with the FOREIGN section, but is NOT in compliance with the DOMESTIC section -- not that being in compliance with the law is important to you.
Hopefully, but I'm doubtful, you can comprehend that YOUR SOURCE fabricated the issue. Here again was the twisted quote from your prejudicial source:
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n fact, warrantless electronic surveillance has been done before, and since the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was signed in 1978. President Carter authorised wiretapping without requiring a court order in 1979. President Reagan authorised warrantless searches against agents of a foreign power. President Clinton authorised electronic surveillance without a warrant in 1995, as well as physical searches of property. Clinton's Deputy Attorney General, Jamie Gorelick, testified before the Senate that the "Department of Justice believes, and the case law supports, that the president has inherent authority to conduct warrantless physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes."
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NOW you should be able to understand that NO WARRANTS were required for SECTION A compliance with FISA, so yes the half-truth of your source is correct. BUT HE TAKES compliance with SECTION A, and uses that compliance to characterize ALL OF THE ACT and conclude that Bush is doing what the other President's did. NO. They complied with the DOMESTIC section(B). Bush ignored B.
NOW I ask you yet again, explain why the 15 day no-warrant period of FISA is inadequate for BUSH, but was adequate for Carter, Reagan, Bush I, and Clinton. Explain why or HOW Bush can't carry out his intelligence gathering within the framework of the statute linked above!
NYOD
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  |  |  | smf January 5, 2006 11:11 AM PST
Sorry, this is the law he speaks of
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00001802----000-.html |  |
  |  |  | JM January 5, 2006 03:54 PM PST
>What do you think about this.
Same thing I thought before. Even the FISA Court of Review understood that the President has the authority under the Constitution to order warrantless surveillance of overseas communication for intelligence-gathering purposes, especially during wartime, and no act of Congress can override the Constitution. |  |
  |  |  | shergald January 28, 2006 03:44 PM PST
I notice that you are still making a life out of conspiratorial paranoia. Now it is known that paranoids don't like to get out much, lest they be followed by all sorts of secret government agencies, but try it. The air out here is must marvelous and will get better as spring approaches. |  |
  |  |  | JM January 28, 2006 04:15 PM PST
Conspiratorial paranoia? I'm not the one accusing the Bush administration of spying on every American citizen for evil purposes. Perhaps your comment would be better directed at the Liberals and Democrats making those accusations. |  |
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