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Sunday, January 25, 2004
Slavery Reparations for the Irish!
Slavery Reparations for the Irish!
Earlier this month, a "civil rights activist" (which can often be read as "blatant opportunist") named Bob Brown filed a lawsuit demanding reparations for African slavery from President George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain, French President Jacques Chirac, King Juan Carlos of Spain, Pope John Paul II, and 66 other defendants.
Of course, Mr. Brown has no proof that any of these particular people ever actually owned slaves or participated in the trade, nor can he prove that he was ever actually a slave himself. To people like him, "reparations" are owed by anyone who might be descended from a slave owner, to anyone descended from anyone who might have been enslaved. No proof of any actual wrongdoing by or to specific individuals is required. In other words, it's a scam to get free money and publicity.
I've been thinking about this reparations deal, and I've decided that I want in on the scam... I mean, I want justice for damages done to my ancestors, too. Therefore, in the name of my forebears, I am demanding reparations from the governments of Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, and all countries once considered part of Scandinavia. Now, all I have to do is get a lawyer and wait for the cash to roll in, right?
You see, I'm part Irish. And the Vikings, it's been proven, engaged in vicious and unprovoked attacks on my people for hundreds of years. They even occupied parts of Ireland from 837 AD to 1014 AD.
It is possible, that an attack on the Northern Ireland coast and the Hebrides in 617 AD was the Vikings, but this cannot be proven. The first official attack on Ireland by the Vikings took place in 794 AD, about 10 years after the first attacks on the English coast, at Rechru (now the island of Lambay) very close to what is now Dublin. The raids continued for approximately 40 years, until finally in 832 AD the Vikings attacked in force under command of warrior named Tuirgeis.
One thousand warriors were under the command of Tuirgeis, and they sailed up the Liffey and the Boyne rivers raiding the interior of Ireland and establishing forts. Another fort was established as a base for the Vikings in 837 AD at Ath Cliath, which was also, called Dubhlinn (Dublin).
And yes, my ancestors were enslaved and sold in the far corners of the world, too.
This relatively concentrated population would have afforded the Vikings a source for a valuable commodity: slaves. Although slave taking was part of the early raids it reached significant proportions later when in 869 AD Amlaib captured over a thousand people in Armagh. Many of these found their way to Scandanavia and Iceland. In many of the Icelandic sagas Irish slave women are mentioned along with the genealogies of the Icelandic heroes.
As the descendant of the unfairly subjugated, taxed and enslaved Irish people, I think I'm owed reparations -- just as much as the descendants of enslaved Africans are. So if you happen to be Scandanavian royalty or a member of the various governments, email me. Hey, I even accept PayPal!
If this doesn't work, then I'll try suing the descendants of the Visigoths for sacking Rome. After all, I'm part Italian, too! They OWE me!
Posted at Sunday, January 25, 2004 by CavalierX
 |  |  | Mike H. January 25, 2004 01:33 AM PST
Uh... Hey JM, could I get in on that also? My forebearers were quite probably Indentured servants. They were scot. It's horrible what happened to me through my ancestors. I can hardly sleep at night. (Sigh) Life just isn't fair
Mike H.
Spokane, WA
Scot-German-Norsk-Svensk-American |  |
  |  |  | JM January 25, 2004 07:14 AM PST
Norsk? Svensk? I don't know, I think that makes you "the man", doesn't it? :) |  |
  |  |  | freeperson January 25, 2004 11:36 AM PST
CavX,
You're so right that this is a ridiculous issue! There were free blacks even in colonial times who owned slaves. Will their black descendants pay reparations? There are many Americans of mixed ancestry. Will they both pay and receive reparations? A little authentic genealogical research would reveal that there is no possible way to separate all the slave descendants from the slave-master descendants. Besides, we've already paid plenty through "entitlement" programs. |  |
  |  |  | JM January 25, 2004 11:43 AM PST
You won't call it "ridiculous" when the checks start rolling in, pal. :)
Seriously, there's no argument in favor of African slavery that can't be applied to all the thousands of other slaves taken from thousands of other countries over the years. Either we all call it even, or we create a lifetime entitlement program for generations of international lawyers. |  |
  |  |  | NA January 26, 2004 12:29 AM PST
What an awesome point. I'm Irish AND Swedish, I guess that means I owe myself money? :-D |  |
  |  |  | Mike H. January 26, 2004 05:06 PM PST
oops |  |
  |  |  | Kerry Dupont January 26, 2004 09:26 PM PST
Hey, I've got it made here Joe.
My maternal grandparents are both from Ireland, my paternal grandmother part American Indian, (whoops I meant "Native American" of course) so I guess I'd be getting some of my own tax money back....
Great post as usual. |  |
  |  |  | Virtus February 1, 2004 03:45 AM PST
Blacks owned more African slaves than whites did. Cuba and Haiti where HUGE ports for the african slave trade...nope, not alot of white people there...
As a matter of fact, how do you think slavetraders got their slaves to begin with? African tribes selling rival tribe prisoners as slaves.
The "white" slave trade in parts of the middle east and turkey (ottoman empire) has thrived up until the early half of the 20th century...yet we are expected to pay reperations...
What a joke. Oh yeah, I am Scottish and German. So I deserve reperations from the English as well as the scandinavians. And I deserve reperations from the Romans for their vicious attacks on the tribal Germans. |  |
  |  |  | Sarah G January 17, 2005 11:54 PM PST
Hey I love this post! I'm Irish and I am sick of hearing how the poor black slaves were treated. I don't go around whining that I am Irish American...I am simply American. My family gave their lives in coal mines, they had nothing. I think we should do away with black history month also. We don't have an Irish history month. The oppression that the Irish people and every other race of people suffered do not entitle us to a history month. We get punished for the color of our skin. We get passed over for jobs and it was the same when the Irish, Italians etc came over. Until they integrated they were ostracized. The black friends that I count and they are many don't consider themselves African...they are American and they feel we owe them nothing. If we as a nation owe anyone it is the Native Americans. Sorry I kind of went off there, but we need a history lesson too, one for all Americans. I truly feel that all races at one time in history have been enslaved. We are all slaves to the clock today. |  |
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